Two really important questions artwork
Change Change

Two really important questions

  • S1E27
  • 02:32
  • May 11th 2026

Neil explains why these two questions are probably the most important questions that a change leader can ask.

Change Change

There is something quite ironic about this thing called Change Management. At Untypical, we have been working in this space since the mid-1990s and in reality, for most change practitioners, nothing has changed.

Tried and true (or is that tired and true?) methodologies that deliver change programs in pretty much the same way as they did back in the early days.

People who create artefacts like change plans, BIAs (that's a business impact assessment for those not "in the know") and comms plans, the delivery of which are often used as the milestones of success more than the actual delivery of agreed outcomes.

We don't think that approach works anymore.

We are setting out to change change. We'd love you to join us on the journey.

Short and sharp episodes that come with a Coffee Queue Guarantee - you should be able to listen to any episode while your kettle is boiling or your barista is making your morning coffee. Each episode is likely to take less than three minutes of your time - no waffle - just challenging thoughts about change and transformation.

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Neil Butler
Host and Producer

Neil Butler has been described as the Swiss Army Knife of change and transformation. The type of person you bring in to fix things that don’t fit into a standard, off-the-shelf, job title. He also likes to write and talk about changing change.