EP 206: Fire Doesn't Innovate. AI Does. Are You Ready? artwork
Cyber Risk Management Podcast

EP 206: Fire Doesn't Innovate. AI Does. Are You Ready?

  • E206
  • 31:30
  • March 24th 2026

Fire hasn't changed since the dawn of humanity, but our cyber adversaries evolve every single day. What happens when organizations spend $10 on AI transformation for every $1 on cybersecurity? In this special ROCon 2025 keynote replay, Kip shares two stories that changed how he thinks about risk: a "perfect" employee who became an insider threat in four weeks, and a $12M deepfake that defeated every technical control on the dashboard. Your hosts are Kip Boyle, CISO with Cyber Risk Opportunities, and Jake Bernstein, Partner with K&L Gates.

 

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Cyber Risk Management Podcast

Cyber risk made clear for busy leaders. Cyber threats move fast. Your business must move faster. In every episode, Kip Boyle—author of "Fire Doesn’t Innovate" and CISO at Cyber Risk Opportunities—joins cybersecurity attorney and CISSP Jake Bernstein to break down the latest cyber risk. You’ll hear plain-English explanations of what's going on and what you need to do about it. No jargon. No doom. Just clear steps you can use today to save money, win buy-in, and stay out of the headlines.