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Welcome to Church Chat, the show where we have the conversations about ministry you wish you were having.
Today we're talking to Zach Guyton about revitalizing a dying church, leading people who are resistant to change, why calling is so important, how to build trust with the community, longevity in community impact, and the tension between in-reach and outreach.
Zach Guyton is lead pastor of Bethany Church in West Orange, NJ.
Mentioned in the episode:
- 7 Ways to Change An Unchangeable Church by Josh Ott
- The Art of Pastoring: Ministry Without All The Answers by Dave Hansen
- Bethany Center for Champions
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