The Landscape After the Fire: Trust and the Seeds That Awaken

In this deeply moving episode of Embodied, Anne welcomes her longtime friend Naomi Irons for a conversation on trust that unfolds with raw honesty, tenderness, and spiritual clarity.

Naomi shares the story of her son’s sudden and life-altering illness, and the moment everything she thought she knew about trust was transformed. What begins as a medical emergency becomes a profound initiation—an opening into presence, vulnerability, and the kind of trust that rises only when life asks everything of us.

Together, Anne and Naomi explore:

• what trust feels like in the body when it’s no longer a concept
• the threshold between life and death, and how it changes us
• the wisdom of endings and the fire that awakens dormant parts of the self
• the difference between trying to trust and living from trust
• how to meet fear, grief, and uncertainty with compassion
• loving without controlling, holding without grasping
• the quiet intelligence of surrender and embodied presence

This conversation is a companion for anyone walking through transition, loss, or a season of deep inner change. It invites you to soften into your own knowing, to listen more closely to the signals in your body, and to trust the emergence that is already happening within you.

A tender, spacious episode that nourishes the heart and honors the courage it takes to live awake.