S04.EP11 - How to Build Big Brands on Small Budgets with Ian Barnard artwork
JUST Branding

S04.EP11 - How to Build Big Brands on Small Budgets with Ian Barnard

  • S4E11
  • 50:45
  • August 3rd 2023

Join us as we sit down with marketing strategist, Ian Barnard, and delve into the world of brand performance and its distinction from performance marketing, exploring the positioning process (4Cs) and the significance of creating future demand.

Ian shares valuable insights on how small brands can grow when competing against larger market leaders and highlights the most common advertising mistakes made by small brands.

Tune in to learn how brand marketing can facilitate profitable scaling and discover the 2-4-5 framework for effective full-funnel advertising.

We also discuss digital marketing mistakes that damage brands and uncover strategies for positioning brands to become the top-of-mind choice.

Don’t miss this insightful conversation that will level up your brand & marketing expertise, no matter your level.

JUST Branding

The JUST Branding Podcast, hosted by Jacob Cass & Matt Davies, is the only podcast dedicated to helping designers & entrepreneurs grow brands.

Each episode goes deep into the details of the brand building process, with professional insights, actionable tips and resources to help you build better brands.

The focus is on helping designers & entrepreneurs bridge the gap between strategy and design. Branding professionals from around the world join Jacob & Matt in discussing the benefits of brand strategy, top tools, how to sell strategy, brand purpose, brand positioning, neuroscience, brand personality, messaging, storytelling, brand naming, tag lines, logo design, brand identity design and brand experience.


Jacob Cass is a Sydney-based designer & strategist who runs JUST Creative, an award-winning branding & design firm that doubles as an industry leading blog. Jacob helps brands grow & get results by crafting distinctive logos & brand identities that are backed by a solid brand strategy.

He recently rebranded San Francisco and Puerto Rico, and also branded New York's Digital District. Other clients have included the likes of Disney, Nintendo and Jerry Seinfeld. Jacob has spoken at TEDx, been featured in Forbes, Entrepreneur and has been awarded LinkedIn’s “Best of” for branding.

For him, design is a lifelong journey of continuously honing his craft, as well as educating other fellow designers & business owners to build on theirs, which has allowed him to build a large and loyal following, including his website which has been been viewed over 50 million times. Jacob is an avid traveler and has traveled to 87 countries.


Matt is a brand strategy specialist working with leaders to align around their brand and get it ready to connect deeply with those inside and outside of their organisations. His work enables you to grow your business faster and easier. Matt solves a variety of brand challenges, from strategy and positioning to naming and identity right through to company culture and product innovation.