“If Not Me, Who? Claire Zangerle on Purpose and Leadership in Nursing”
- S2E3
- 39:36
- October 24th 2025
In this episode of Leading with Hearts and Minds, Marie Kilduff speaks with Claire Zangerle, CEO of the American Organisation for Nursing Leadership and CEO of the American Hospital Association.
Claire describes her unconventional path into leadership, from a second career in nursing to leading two of the most influential healthcare organisations in the United States. She reflects on the lessons learned along the way: the value of vulnerability, the importance of finding your “why,” and why leadership is as much about how we lead as what we achieve.
From addressing workplace incivility and burnout to inspiring the next generation of nurse leaders, Claire’s message is both practical and deeply human: nurses shouldn’t just have a seat at the table, they should set the table.
🎧 Listen for insights on:
- Redefining what leadership looks like in nursing
- Building confidence and authenticity as a leader
- Addressing bullying and incivility in healthcare
- Finding purpose and balance in demanding roles
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Discover the untold stories behind the leaders shaping the future of healthcare. In "Leading with Hearts & Minds, "We bring you intimate, one-to-one conversations with healthcare professionals who have navigated extraordinary challenges and triumphs.
Each episode reveals the personal journeys, hard-earned lessons, and human moments that define leadership in one of the world's most demanding fields.
Whether you're a healthcare professional, a leader, or simply curious about the heart and mind behind outstanding leadership, this podcast offers inspiration and insight with every story.
Presenter - Director, National Clinical Leadership Centre for Nursing and Midwifery (NCLC)
Dr Aoife Lane is Leadership advisor at the National Clinical Leadership Centre for Nursing and Midwifery.
Deputy Director of the National Clinical Leadership Centre for Nursing and Midwifery in the HSE