
MCP133: What If Selling Was Just Helping People Make a Good Decision? w/ Morris Sims
- E134
- 41:06
- June 3rd 2026
Most people who struggle with sales aren't bad at selling. They're just thinking about it the wrong way. They walk in focused on making a sale. And the people across from them can feel it.
I sat down with my friend, Morris Sims, and this conversation reminded me why the long game always wins. Morris spent over 30 years training financial professionals and executives at New York Life. He helped build one of the first corporate universities for field training. He knows what separates the people who close deals from the ones who burn through leads and wonder why nothing sticks.
This one is for anyone who's ever felt uncomfortable calling themselves a salesperson.
Key Takeaways
- The difference between a professional and an amateur salesperson comes down to one thing: who they're focused on when they walk in the room
- You can't make someone buy. You can set up the right environment, give them the right information, and let them choose
- Persuasion and manipulation are the same action with different intent, and your clients can tell which one you're using
- The Clarity Principle: you need to know your "what," your "why," and your "how" before you build any strategy
- Follow up isn't about staying top of mind. It's about building a real relationship so that when they're ready, you're the only call they want to make
Listen If You...
- Feel "icky" about selling and aren't sure how to get past it
- Have leads that go cold after the first conversation and don't know why
- Are a business owner, coach, or service pro who knows relationships matter but isn't sure how to make them pay off
Connect with Morris
Connect with Morris on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/morris-sims/ or search for The Commission Code on Spotify.
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