The nature of service and how we've grown up with a service economy which is now finding it very hard to actually serve customers - Interview with Joel Bailey of EY Seren artwork
Punk CX with Adrian Swinscoe

The nature of service and how we've grown up with a service economy which is now finding it very hard to actually serve customers - Interview with Joel Bailey of EY Seren

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  • 55:59
  • April 26th 2020

Today’s interview is with Joel Bailey, who is a Director at EY Seren, the global design consultancy within EY. Joel is a friend of mine, someone I have worked with and a really interesting thinker when it comes to service. Our conversation was precipitated by the publication of an article he wrote (2020: A new decade of service) earlier this year. So, we set up a time to chat to talk about why we should leave the experience economy behind, that service is the element that connects customer experience and employee experience and the idea that we need to define service anew.

This interview follows on from my recent interview – Authentic leadership is just the rebranding of transformational leadership with some of the caffeine taken out – Interview with Professor Dennis Tourish - and is number 339 in the series of interviews with authors and business leaders that are doing great things, providing valuable insights, helping businesses innovate and delivering great service and experience to both their customers and their employees.

Punk CX with Adrian Swinscoe

An ongoing series of interviews where I, Adrian Swinscoe, interview leading entrepreneurs, leaders and thought leaders about how to deliver stand out customer experience and service.

Essentially, I'm looking for practical clues that will help you build a business that both customers and employees love.

Topics covered in the interviews include customer service, experience and engagement, employee experience and engagement, technology, adaptable and responsive organizations, high-performing teams and all such related issues.

Note: This podcast series was originally known as the RARE Business podcast but rebranded in late 2019 on the back of the publication of my latest book: Punk CX.