We Read "All Fours." It Got Deep...But Was It Fun? artwork
That's Fun

We Read "All Fours." It Got Deep...But Was It Fun?

  • S1E22
  • 32:26
  • June 23rd 2025

In this episode of That’s Fun, Nikki and Damaris start their unofficial two-person book club with a deep dive into All Fours by Miranda July.

The book explores themes like perimenopause, creative stagnation, marriage, sexuality, and midlife restlessness—prompting the kind of honest, layered conversation Nikki and Damaris do best. From questioning the default structure of relationships to reflecting on how it feels to age out of the endless possibilities of your twenties, they unpack the ways women often renegotiate identity in their 40s and beyond.

Damaris shares how All Fours became a jumping-off point for a real-life perimenopause group, while Nikki talks about the personal shifts she’s navigating as her body, family life, and creative ambitions evolve. The two also reflect on how everyday tasks—like cleaning off a chaotic porch or restoring a thrifted painting—can feel unexpectedly powerful when viewed through the lens of before-and-after transformation.

This episode is thoughtful, a little messy, and full of the kinds of conversations we often don’t make space for—about aging, relationships, personal reinvention, and the quiet ways we start reclaiming ourselves.

Spoilers ahead for All Fours. And an open invitation to join the conversation, wherever you are in your own story.

That's Fun

Life is a wild ride, full of highs, lows, and everything in between. But who says you can’t have fun while facing it all head-on? Welcome to "That’s Fun" the podcast where best friends Nikki Dinki and Damaris Phillips bring you the perfect blend of laughter, insight, and real talk.

Join Nikki and Damaris as they embark on a lively journey to discover the secret to keeping life light and hilarious, even when it’s anything but. With infectious enthusiasm and a touch of loving sarcasm, they dive into topics that will get your brain buzzing and your spirit soaring. From backyard adventures to globe-trotting escapades, culinary creations, and quirky hobbies, they explore it all with genuine passion and a whole lot of heart.

But it’s not all sunshine and rainbows. Nikki and Damaris aren’t afraid to tackle the tough stuff, too. They get real about life’s challenges, sharing personal stories of setbacks, triumphs, and resilience. Whether you’re grappling with the realities of middle age, parenting, or just trying to keep your inner child alive, they’ve got your back.

Through laughter, heartfelt advice, and a shared sense of adventure, Nikki and Damaris create a community of listeners who are ready to embrace life’s ups and downs. So, if you’re looking for a podcast that makes you laugh out loud while reminding you to live fully, “That’s Fun + Real” is your new go-to.

Tune in, because life is too short not to have fun—and Nikki and Damaris are here to show you how.