
The Outbound & Discovery Playbook: How Elite Recruiters Close More Deals (with Conor Kline)
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- December 9th 2025
EPISODE SHOW NOTES — The Outbound & Discovery Playbook: How Elite Recruiters Close More Deals (with Conor Kline)
(The Elite Recruiter Podcast with Benjamin Mena)
1. EPISODE HOOK
Most recruiters think their problem is lead generation.
Conor Kline reveals the truth: your real bottleneck is your sales process — and it’s costing you clients, deals, and revenue.
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2. WHY THIS EPISODE MATTERS
This episode rewires how you approach BD. Learn the exact outbound, discovery, and closing frameworks top SaaS sales teams use — adapted for recruiters. Use them to increase reply rates, win better clients, and grow revenue fast.
3. WHAT YOU’LL LEARN
• Why 90% of recruiters fail at outbound
• How to build a high-converting ICP + targeting strategy
• The 12–15 touch sequence Conor recommends
• The discovery question that reveals real client pain
• Why closing becomes easy when discovery is right
• How MEDIC uncovers budget, decision makers & urgency
• The AI workflow that got Ben a remarkable candidate reply
4. ABOUT THE GUEST
Conor Kline, Head of Revenue at PIN.com, is a top sales operator in the recruiting tech space. Formerly with Interseller, he’s trained thousands of recruiters to improve outbound, discovery, and closing performance.
5. EXTENDED VALUE TEASE
Imagine a desk with warm leads, clients who respect your process, and a pipeline full of searches you actually want. This episode gives you the systems, clarity, and structure to operate like a top 1% recruiter.
6. LISTEN NOW CTA
Hit play — your 2026 billings will thank you.
7. TIMESTAMP HIGHLIGHTS
00:03 — Why recruiters are the hardest buyers
05:08 — What makes PIN different
07:57 — The #1 thing recruiters lack
10:31 — Building a laser-focused ICP
13:55 — The 20-target rule
17:45 — Why messaging fails
18:48 — The outbound stack
20:18 — AI vs. human personalization
22:19 — The 12–15 touch sequence
24:33 — Discovery explained
27:18 — MEDIC for recruiters
34:15 — Why closing should feel easy
41:02 — The future of recruiting tech
45:21 — Why point solutions win
49:26 — Ben’s AI outbound story
53:55 — The question Conor wishes recruiters asked
56:00 — Curiosity = elite performance
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YouTube: https://youtu.be/yG93v54M2Fk
Conor LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/conorkline/
Host: http://www.selectsourcesolutions.com/
Ben LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjaminmena/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/benlmena/
The Elite Recruiter Podcast
The Elite Recruiter Podcast is the number one podcast for recruiting professionals.
This is where the top recruiters share: How they got there. What kind of work did it take. Tips, Tools, and Tricks. The Mindset needed to get them to where they are. What they are doing with their success. Goals and visions for the future. So please join me on this journey as I interview some of the best in our industry.
Benjamin Mena
The Elite Recruiter Podcast Host
Meet the Hosts
Benjamin Mena is the founder of Select Source Solutions and the host of The Elite Recruiter Podcast — one of the top global podcasts for agency and executive recruiters. With over a decade of experience placing top talent in the government contracting (GovCon) and cleared space, Ben brings a no-BS approach to the business of recruiting.
Each week, he interviews high-performing recruiters, agency owners, and industry innovators to uncover the real stories behind their success. From six-figure solo producers to million-dollar billers and AI-powered solopreneurs, Ben’s mission is simple: help recruiters level up their careers and businesses through actionable insights, raw conversations, and a community of like-minded professionals.
Based between the U.S. and Bordeaux, France, Ben is also a dad, summit host, and advocate for the future of AI-powered recruiting.