The First AI Cofounder? How Woz is Changing Startups
- S2E56
- 47:18
- August 5th 2025
What if launching a tech startup was as easy as filling out a form?
Ben Collins, co-founder of Woz, joins Gabriel to unpack how his AI platform helps anyone — even non-technical founders — build full-stack software businesses. From betting against vertical SaaS to designing an AI cofounder you can trust, this conversation is a tactical deep dive into where startup creation is headed.
🔍 In this episode:
Why Woz pivoted away from a holding company model
What most AI-first code tools get totally wrong
How mobile-first enables higher quality standards
A unique approach to betting on future AI capability curves
The real reason most AI startups are failing users
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⏱ Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Scaling and Bottlenecks
00:18 Introducing Ben Collins and Woz
01:04 The Vision Behind Woz
03:43 The Founding Story
06:06 The Shift to a Platform Approach
08:53 Navigating the Competitive Landscape
12:39 Philosophical and Strategic Insights
17:02 The Mobile-First Strategy
25:34 The Journey to Product-Market Fit
27:15 Navigating Rapid Technological Changes
32:21 The Impact of Y Combinator
35:00 AI's Role in Scaling Service Businesses
36:42 Challenges for Non-Technical Founders
39:13 Bold Predictions and Future Bets
45:02 Exciting Announcements and Closing Thoughts
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