
Being Present at the End: How a Death Doula Changes the Experience
- E17
- 31:04
- April 1st 2026
In this compassionate episode of The Senior Scoop, hosts Deborah and Kelsey Samuel speak with Jill McClennen, a certified death doula and celebrant who supports people and families through life’s final chapters. Jill shares the personal story that led her into this work, what death doulas actually do, and how simple acts of presence, conversation and ritual can transform both dying and grieving.
She explains how her experience caring for her grandmother changed her view of hospice and end-of-life care, and how that led to decades of learning, volunteer work, and ultimately a vocation supporting others. The conversation is practical, covering how to start hard conversations with family, what a doula’s non-medical role includes, and how rituals and funerary choices can be deeply healing.
This episode is both a how-to and an invitation: to speak earlier, plan with clarity, and lean into presence so families can find peace rather than panic when the time comes.
🏡 Key Topics Covered
02:20 Jill’s personal journey
06:14 What is a death doula?
10:24 Emotional benefits of preparation
12:39 Opening conversations about death
15:06 How families find support
17:45 Presence and empathy
25:18 The funeral celebrant’s role
29:27 Living fully before death
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👤 Guest Information
🌐 End of Life Clarity — https://www.endoflifeclarity.com/about-jill
🌐 Rothkoff Law — https://rothkofflaw.com/about/our_team/jill-mcclennen/
📞 (609) 283-2226.
The Senior Scoop
The Senior Scoop is a podcast hosted by Deborah and Kelsey Samuel, created to support and inform seniors navigating major life transitions. Based in Santa Barbara, the show focuses on helping older adults understand and prepare for various aspects of aging — from downsizing and home maintenance to emotional well-being and planning for the future.
Each episode explores topics relevant to senior life, such as physical and mental health, financial planning, trusts and wills, pet care, and more. The hosts bring on local experts — including healthcare professionals, legal advisors, and home service providers — to offer insights, resources, and practical advice.
The Senior Scoop is a warm and informative resource designed to empower seniors and their families with trusted guidance and real-life tips from the Santa Barbara community.