In this episode of The Senior Scoop, hosts Deborah and Kelsey Samuel welcome Lisa Pahl, hospice social worker, palliative care expert, and creator of The Death Deck.
Drawing from nearly two decades of hospice work, Lisa explains how difficult conversations around death, caregiving, and end-of-life wishes can become easier when approached with openness, curiosity, and even humor. Through interactive card decks designed for different stages of life and care, she helps families explore topics many people avoid until a crisis occurs.
The conversation explores how family dynamics, grief, dementia care, funeral preferences, and medical decisions can create confusion when people haven’t communicated their wishes clearly. Lisa shares how these tools encourage connection, reduce fear, and help loved ones make decisions with more confidence and less guilt.
This episode is thoughtful, emotional, and surprisingly uplifting — showing that talking about death can actually strengthen relationships and deepen understanding between generations.
🏡 Key Topics Covered
07:07 The Story Behind Death Deck
09:39 How Death Deck Works
14:00 Funerals, Ashes & Difficult Conversations
25:16 Dementia Care & Dignity
32:30 Final Wishes & Last Hurrah
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👤 Guest Information
Lisa Pahl, LCSW
The Senior Scoop
The Senior Scoop is a podcast hosted by Deborah and Kelsey Samuel, created to support and inform seniors navigating major life transitions. Based in Santa Barbara, the show focuses on helping older adults understand and prepare for various aspects of aging — from downsizing and home maintenance to emotional well-being and planning for the future.
Each episode explores topics relevant to senior life, such as physical and mental health, financial planning, trusts and wills, pet care, and more. The hosts bring on local experts — including healthcare professionals, legal advisors, and home service providers — to offer insights, resources, and practical advice.
The Senior Scoop is a warm and informative resource designed to empower seniors and their families with trusted guidance and real-life tips from the Santa Barbara community.