
020 - Jared Ficklin, Kat Dunn & Craig Swann - The Journey of Humanity, Technology's Irrepressible March, Post-Capitalism & The Solarian Myth
- S2E20
- 1:49:35
- July 10th 2023
PLEASE NOTE: THE FIRST 90 SECONDS OF THE INTERVIEW HAS AN ECHO - IT IS GONE BY 4:33.
For the first time ever on Unmapped, we’ve got more than one guest: a conversation in the truest sense. This dialogue began under twilight at the Salon stage of _SOUTHSTART and ends in The Twilight Zone; it is a true exploration of possibility. In the liminal and beautiful chaos of the future, you are welcome to open your mind and see what the world could look like. Today, that’s where we’re playing.
From Austin, Texas, Jared is a futurist, international speaker plus the Partner and Chief Creative Technologist at argodesign. Jared has spent his life colliding the creative potential of the future against present day realities in order to create better experiences for humans. The way he thinks about the world is unique: just wait until we give him a run-up to The Solarian Myth. A true joy to go deep with, everything Jared says and does comes from the left of field and yet always makes perfect sense.
From Perth, Western Australia, Kat is an impact-first, future-focused global systems designer operating at the C-suite & Board level. She focuses on projects and organisations re-thinking the possibilities of how we do things as humans. From CEO of Grameen Australia to Board roles with Food Frontier and Women for Election, Kat’s CV is distinguished and for good reason: she is a brilliant operator. She’s also my favourite person to have conversations like this with and acts as co-host on this episode.
From Adelaide, South Australia (although extremely Canadian), Craig is a technologist, artist and the Co-Founder of _SOUTHSTART, Australia’s premiere ideas and innovations festival. Craig is endlessly curious, naturally creative and is always willing to flip the script, ask why and explore any topic from every angle. A collector and connector of dots, Craig has a fascinating mind and despite his interest in technology, has a gift for curating environments offering authentic human connection.
I’m incredibly honoured to have been able to facilitate this conversation. Some of the most beautiful minds I know in a raw, unfiltered, campfire-style chat exploring the future of humanity at a critical point in our history.
Before you listen, ask yourself this question: What would it look like if humanity created technology and directed its exponential power toward the sole purpose of scaling authentic human connection, love and wisdom?
This one was special. Enjoy.
Unmapped with Mike Kelly
Unmapped is an exploration of the human desire for travel. Why do we travel? What do we learn from it? How does it enrich our experience of the world? What impact do our travels have on the rest of our lives?
Mike speaks with pioneers, adventurists and trailblazers from around the planet, hearing their stories and unlocking the life secrets they’ve learned from their time on (and off) the beaten path.
This Podcast has been produced by Bondi Radio Media Group, and creative illustrations of the host and authors contributed by Moral Studios.
Meet the Host

“Unmapped is my next journey; a true passion project. It’s an opportunity to express my way of life and to give mavericks a platform to share the beauty of their lives. It’s easy to feel trapped in society but freedom is always available and for me, it was travel which showed me that.”