
This episode is a conversation between Sam Stafford and former Secretary of State for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities, the Rt Hon. the Lord Gove.
Famous in political circles. Infamous, some might say, in planning circles.
The Parliament of 2019-2024 was tumultuous for everybody, but for planning specifically it was an especially tumultuous time.
There was the 2020 'Planning for the Future' White Paper, which Mr Gove inherited in 2021, the same year as the Chesham & Amersham byelection. 2022 brought Mr Gove’s Devolution White Paper, his resignation and reappointment, the LURB, then the LURA, the rebellion against which over "top down" housing targets that precipitated the NPPF changes that were subsequently adopted in 2023.
Mr Gove talks Sam through all of that tumult. They also talked about strategic planning; about B.I.D.E.N; about the stance on housing that the now opposition Conservative Party should take into the next election: and they talked about the merits of 'big bang' planning reform versus pragmatic incrementalism.
Some accompanying reading.
Foundations
National Planning Policy Fudge
https://samuelstafford.blogspot.com/2023/01/national-planning-policy-fudge.html
The Long-Term Plan for Housing II
https://samuelstafford.blogspot.com/2024/01/the-long-term-plan-for-housing-ii.html
Some accompanying Listening.
Only Memories Remain - My Morning Jacket
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX-RDOp4XtE
Any other business.
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50 Shades of Planning is Sam Stafford’s attempt to explore the foibles of the English planning system and it's aim is to cover the breadth of the sector both in terms of topics of conversation and in terms of guests with different experiences and perspectives.
50 Shades episodes include 'Hitting The High Notes', which are a series of conversations with leading planning and property figures. The conversations take in the six milestone planning permissions or projects within a contributor’s career and for every project guests are invited to choose a piece of music that they were listening to at that time. Think Desert Island Discs, but for planners.
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