This is the fourth of a series of episodes being led by the oldest friend of the podcast, Paul Smith.
Paul put it to Sam Stafford that debates about the planning system in England tend, for the most part, to focus solely on the planning system in England. We very seldom look to other countries for inspiration and ideas.
Paul wanted to remedy that and so in this series he is chatting with planning professionals and academics from a number of countries to find out what works well there, what works less well, and what can we learn.
In this episode Paul chats to Stuart Donovan about planning in New Zealand. Stuart is an economist and Senior Fellow with Motu Research, an independent Wellington-based economics and public policy institute.
During a conversation recorded online in January 2026 Paul and Stewart talk about why Auckland became one of the least affordable housing markets in the world and how the opportunities for upzoning presented by an earthquake in Christchurch and local government reorganisation in Auckland became so successful that they were ultimately replicated nationally.
Some accompanying reading.
Up-zoning New Zealand: the localisation of a globally mobile policy idea
Dispelling Myths – reviewing the evidence of zoning reforms in Auckland
Going it alone: the impact of upzoning on housing construction in Lower Hutt
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1051137724000512
New Zealand shows how planning reform will end Britain’s housing crisis
Buckaroo! The burdens that have become a big problem for house building
Some accompanying viewing.
Planning on the Frontline: Navigating Abuse, Misinformation and Public Pressure
Some accompanying listening.
Flight of the Conchords - Hiphopopotamus vs. Rhymenoceros
Any other business.
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50 Shades of Planning is Sam Stafford’s attempt to explore the foibles of the English planning system and it's aim is to cover the breadth of the sector both in terms of topics of conversation and in terms of guests with different experiences and perspectives.
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50 Shades episode also include the 'All Around the World' series, which is being led by friend of the podcast, Paul Smith.
Paul put it to Sam that debates about the planning system in England tend, for the most part, to focus solely on the planning system in England. Planners here very seldom look to other countries for inspiration and ideas. Paul wanted to remedy that and so in this series he chats with planning professionals and academics from a number of countries to find out what works well there, what works less well, and what can be learnt.
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50 Shades of Planning is by planners and for planners and so if you would like to use the podcast or the YouTube channel for sharing anything you think that the sector needs to be talking about then do please feel free to get in touch with Sam via [email protected].
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