Leading Change Before the Change Begins: Mindsets, M&A & Transformation with Perry Gordon
- S2E11
- 42:12
- October 6th 2026
In this episode of Reroute Reflections, Andrew Ourique is joined by Perry Gordon, Organizational Change Manager at M&T Bank, to explore what organizations can learn from M&A, enterprise transformation, and the people side of change.
Drawing on his experience supporting change within the financial services industry, Perry shares lessons from M&A and organizational transformation—including the challenges of integrating cultures, breaking down silos, and building the capabilities organizations need to navigate change successfully.
Together, Andrew and Perry discuss why transformation starts with people, the importance of leaders modelling the right mindsets and behaviours, and why organizations should build these foundations before major change begins. They also explore the connection between engagement and innovation, the value of experimentation, and why curiosity can be one of the most powerful tools for change practitioners and leaders.
Whether you're leading transformation, supporting an integration, or helping an organization build its capacity for change, this episode offers practical lessons for navigating complexity with confidence.
Reroute Reflections
Change is inevitable—but navigating it successfully takes insight, strategy, and a willingness to operate in ambiguity. Reroute Reflections has evolved. In Season 1, we explored the intersections of relationships, wellness, and business. Now, in Season 2, host Andrew Ourique, founder of Reroute Consulting, shifts the focus to change management—unpacking real-world strategies, lessons, and insights from industry experts, clients, and leaders who have embraced transformation. Whether you're leading a team through uncertainty or adapting to change yourself, this podcast is your guide to making it work.